What’s Scaring Scientists? Human Extinction Through Artificial Intelligence.

Executive director of Climate Nexus Jeff Nesbit suggests that humanity might be extinct by 2050. “The human race could vanish in the blink of an eye within our lifetimes … there is a dark, threatening side to the AI story, and it is only now being discussed publicly.” Nesbit Nesbit draws from the fears of individuals […]

via What’s Scaring Scientists? Human Extinction Through Artificial Intelligence. — Feral Culture

When did it happen….


When did we stop seeing their suffering…
When did we stop hearing their screams…
When did their suffering we inflict become NOT our responsibility…
When did we find any excuse for their imprisonment…
When did their entrapment become our given…
When did we stop believing in their natural right to live free…
When did we become so cruel…
When did someone else’s pain become so amusing…
When did we lose natural respect for life…
When did we turn the world into this living and breathing constant pain…

Do we have to understand these whens, for us to change nows?

No Time for Bullies: Baboons Retool Their Culture

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baboonsBy NATALIE ANGIERAPRIL 13, 2004

Sometimes it takes the great Dustbuster of fate to clear the room of bullies and bad habits. Freak cyclones helped destroy Kublai Khan’s brutal Mongolian empire, for example, while the Black Death of the 14th century capsized the medieval theocracy and gave the Renaissance a chance to shine.

Among a troop of savanna baboons in Kenya, a terrible outbreak of tuberculosis 20 years ago selectively killed off the biggest, nastiest and most despotic males, setting the stage for a social and behavioral transformation unlike any seen in this notoriously truculent primate.

In a study appearing today in the journal PloS Biology (online at http://www.plosbiology.org), researchers describe the drastic temperamental and tonal shift that occurred in a troop of 62 baboons when its most belligerent members vanished from the scene. The victims were all dominant adult males that had been strong and snarly enough to…

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the difference between a tool and a technology, facebook style

toolDimitri Douchin  What’s the difference between a tool and a technology? Justin Stout Ria Del Montana

Ria Del Montana very contentious question. depends on who you ask. what are your thoughts?

Dimitri Douchin What makes a bow and arrow a reasonable technology (a tool?) while cars less reasonable. I have a few criterea in mind: – ability to rebuild from ubiquitous materials – tool efficiency proportional to the human input – minimum impact on the “environment”, or none at all. I’m pretty happy with that. I thought I’d ask the pro rebels

Ria Del Montana i like your 3rd point the best. i might go with that to frame it as something like “-maintains or enhances co-adaption or symbiosis within habitat community.” thanks for challenging me to clarify thoughts on this.

Dimitri Douchin Ria Del Montana Do solar panels match that 3d point? In my understanding they don’t, and that bothers me, in the sense that I wish they did

Ria Del Montana my gut says no. that would have bothered me a while back, but i kinda gave up on the utopian notion of sustainable living without the primitive

Dimitri Douchin  Ria Del Montana Maybe that’s where I’m at now

Ria Del Montana  Dimitri Douchin hope i’m not causing you any utopia bursting pain

Dimitri Douchin I’m using your precious knowledge to implement my sense of utopia

Mike Mangion And by allowing people to use your precious knowledge you become the tool yourself which ticks the box of human input, as I do myself when teaching others pottery Dimitri and Ria.

Ria Del Montana wow, i feel like i’m on some kinda spiraling shroom trip. this is getting way deep! Anyone object to me posting this thread on my blog?

Justin Stout I like this.. “Technology is more than wires, silicon, plastic, and steel. It is a complex system involving division of labor, resource extraction, and exploitation for the benefit of those who implement its process. The interface with and result of technology is always an alienated, mediated, and distorted reality. Despite the claims of postmodern apologists and other technophiles, technology is not neutral. The values and goals of those who produce and control technology are always embedded within it. Technology is distinct from simple tools in many regards. A simple tool is a temporary usage of an element within our immediate surroundings used for a specific task. Tools do not involve complex systems which alienate the user from the act. Implicit in technology is this separation, creating an unhealthy and mediated experience which leads to various forms of authority. Domination increases every time a new “time-saving” technology is created, as it necessitates the construction of more technology to support, fuel, maintain and repair the original technology. This has led very rapidly to the establishment of a complex technological system that seems to have an existence independent from the humans who created it. Discarded by-products of the technological society are polluting both our physical and our psychological environments. Lives are stolen in service of the Machine and the toxic effluent of the technological system’s fuels—both are choking us. Technology is now replicating itself, with something resembling a sinister sentience. Technological society is a planetary infection, propelled forward by its own momentum, rapidly ordering a new kind of environment: one designed for mechanical efficiency and technological expansionism alone. The technological system methodically destroys, eliminates, or subordinates the natural world, constructing a world fit only for machines. The ideal for which the technological system strives is the mechanization of everything it encounters.”


Ria Del Montana such good writing, on such a bad topic. Justin, can I have permission to post this on one of my blogs?

Dimitri Douchin   Justin Stout I remember that you posted this paragraph recently, and it’s that paragraph that triggered this questioning



Indigenous Leader: “We’re fighting NOT to have roads or electricity.”

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Indigenous grapple with NYC bedlam, bureaucracy at UN forum

Ati Quigua, an indigenous leader from Colombia, listens during the 15th session of the U.N…


UNITED NATIONS (AP) — To hear Ati Quigua tell it, New York City is a place where people who don’t know each other live stacked inside big buildings, gorging on the “foods of violence,” and where no one can any longer feel the Earth’s beating heart.

Quigua, an indigenous leader whose village in Colombia sits on an isolated mountain range rising 18,700 feet (5,700 meters) before plunging into the sea, is just one of over 1,000 delegates in town for the 15th Session of the United Nations Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues that ends Friday.

“On top of the temples of the goddess and Mother Earth, they are building castles, they are building cities and building churches, but our mother has the capacity to regenerate,”…

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Humans as inverse keystone species

Human beings cannot be called a keystone species because our influence on nature is not disproportionately large compared to our abundance (population size). Our cities, roads, and technologies, however, have altered nearly every ecosystem on Earth.


I’ve been thinking about the human niche or role in wider ecosystems and aside from the wide savannah style plains on which we evolved it seems we are a keystone species in most other ecosystems, but not quite.

If a keystone or engineer species is one which, through its actions is able to create habitats, control water/moisture/nutrient cycles, maintain species composition etc like Grey Wolves, Sea Otters or Beavers, then humans are like a keystone species BUT – we act to create ecosytems which are for us, instead of for other species. We control megafauna, use fires to ensure grazing grounds, remove unwanted predators, hunt top through bottom of the food web, create spaces for species which benefit ourselves. In short we are more like a ‘mirror’ species – one which always acts to recreate the world in our own image.

Agriculture, horticulture, permaculture, control through fire and hunting, pseudo-herding of grazing animals etc. These are all strategies to make the ecosystem for us, not for others.