Stewardship Sharing snippet with Kytko Žrout

Hi Ria, it is me – Kytko Žrout from Fakelook. Thank you for response. Yes I know about the invassive plant species spreading from gardens. We had similar situation here in Czech Republic when people started to plant chinese juniper (Juniperus chinensis). This shrub is host of fungal pathogen called “rez hrušňová” and it started spreading to the rest of virgin polycultural forests where it have attacked wild pears and sweet cherry (Prunus avium) so most of them started to wither away especially in combination with Czech forest service as economical industry planting spruce trees everywhere. I am reading your blog and I found this I hope I understood it correctly. So you used a combination of two plants to eradicate English Holly? Was your experiment succesfull? What kind of willow was that you used? Have you had to adjust soil Ph somehow?

Hi Kytko,

Wow, Prunus avium is invasive in our forests. So funny how our native species have traveled about to become invasive in each other’s bioregions!

Our English Holly experiment just started. It will take at least 3 years to complete, and it’s very small scale. If you have English Holly as an invasive, you’re probably aware of the challenges with its control. Our Parks department has resorted to injecting them with herbicide, so I’m trying to experiment with nonpoisonous methods.

Our 3 primary willows here are Salix scouleriana, Salix hookeriana, and Salix lucida ssp. lasiandra.

Permaculture is a bit different than forest restoration. We mainly just cope with whatever soil conditions by adjusting planting plans. The adjustments that we do make replicate nature more, like using various forest debris as compost to loosen compacted soil, or planting for slope stabilization.

I know very little about gardening or permaculture.

Feel free to give any input or feedback for my blog.

Stay in touch! Much affinity!

Rio Montana

That is really funny about the invasive species being spreaded because of human desire to improve just his environment (cities or towns) and he is not able to see consequences of his actions. Yes I agree that permaculture is totally different and it cannot be compared with forest restoration but still I personally see a little mentions of rewilding in permaculture or at least tiny steps rewilding. For example the story of my lot (yard, garden, land, do not know what is correct) was very sad. I inherited it from my great-grandfather when I was 18. The land was totally destroyed with heavy machinery and -cides because after WWII the communists confiscated the land and turned it into field, highly producing peas to feed the cows. So the first two years I put the land to car of Mother Nature to purificate the soil but the residues of -cides and oils were very high so I came to help with planting few Salix caprea trees which were able to accumulate trace elements and it worked. And the wild bees, attracted with blossoms, returned to feed themselves on these willows and then I started with permaculture design, actually I use it from 60% and I left the rest of land to wildlife as a hideout. Before I left my home I illegaly planted these willows around the edges of forests near streams pouring through abandoned agriculture land as well as birch tree considered by Forest Service as “undesirable economic tree”. The same with Sorbus aucuparia, the rowan tree.  My silent fight against those who taught me about these things around trees, forest environment and how to destroy forests for the economic cause. I always preffer practice in front of philosophy because I am not too much thinking when it comes to ideologies or politics. You know – origin of time, language, art… It is just completion for you to know what are my thoughts or ideas etc. 🙂 I hope I am not doing too much grammar mistakes. But I wanted to ask you: How will the combination of willow and black berry work? It has some combination of suppresive effects to English Holly? Some hormones or mechanical effects?

I can read your English easily. Sorry I cannot communicate in your first language as well.

Very interesting story. Ok if I post our conversation on my blog?

There were 2 different experiments, the first replacing Rubus armeniacus (Himalayan blackberry) on a steep slope, the second exploring a non-herbicide method for controlling Ilex aquifolium (English holly).

The first involves staking 6′ – 12′ live stakes of Salix scouleriana (Scouler’s willow) throughout the blackberry infestation. The stakes will be placed deeper than the blackberry roots to outcompete for water and nutrients, and taller than the blackberry canes to outcompete for sun. After the willow roots are established enough to stabilize the slope, we could safely remove the blackberry and underplant with site appropriate native species.

The second is simply repeat cutting holly shoots stemming up from cut holly trunks.

Peace mi amigo!

Rio Montana



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